Deaf Peddlers
By Jimactor
Transcript:
Hello again, I want to talk about deaf peddlers. My dad and mom love to host the party such as potluck, poker, etc. at our home when I am a little boy. I remember when my dad invites many strange friends. Really wow. I ask my dad that I know some and did not know some. Where did they come from? He says they come from different states. I puzzle and say why did they come here in Chicago? He says, well some people work printer, you know ITU printer, and deaf peddlers. I puzzle myself again, I say what is deaf peddler? Can you tell me what it means? My dad says oh, ok deaf peddlers sell things to people such as ABC’s card or pencil or something else. The people pay 25 cents, 50 cents or a dollar, it depends on people’s choice. I say oh, it is odd but my dad says, it is important to respect deaf peddlers. They are nice and cool people. I go to residential school, many of my friends know that my dad and mom are good friend with deaf peddlers. My friends make fun of me because I am friend with deaf peddlers. My heart is broken but my dad is not peddler as he works Oscar Mayer as foreman. My mom works as a part time job because she takes care of me when I am a little boy. So, I go and talk to my dad that my friends make fun of me because I am friend with deaf peddlers as my heart is broken. My dad says, wait a minute, I don’t care about them as my deaf peddlers are my friends. It is important to respect them, it does not matter what kind of job they work. I remember his words.
Many years later until my dad and mom are gone. I work for one company, what happen is that it downsizes. There is a few people out there but I happen to be old in that company so they put me to the personnel office to clean up the files before the company closes for good. I clean the file and my mind pops out, I remember my dad’s saying ‘Important to respect deaf peddlers’. At first, I don’t get what my dad really means but now I get it. Look, many people live on welfare or public aid. They go to the office to fill up the paperworks that they say they can’t find a job at all. They get money and food stamps. When they get home and do nothing, they have good times. Now look at deaf peddlers, they go to the store to buy things. The next day, they sell and earn the money, probably 20 or 30 dollars for a day. The next day, again they get up in the early morning and start to sell it. They earn really small money and add up each days to make living, support their family, maybe just him/herself. Now, by the way, I wonder why many deaf people talk negative about deaf peddlers. Hold a minute, they really work hard and make living. You know, selling things to earn the money while welfare or public aid people are lazy and do nothing. They wait for 6 or 12 months to fill up the paperworks. They have no money, they don’t have a job while the deaf peddlers work hard and sell things. And the people still talk negative about deaf peddlers. I do not understand, you agree with me? that the deaf peddlers really work hard. Please leave the comment. Thank you.
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Fookem and Bug 
Big Hallo Jimactor!!!
Thank you so much for educating me about your history with your parents and your friendship with Deaf Peddlers!!! You can go view on my video response comment on your DEAFTV Video from this link: http://www.deafvideo.tv/watch/5878
Hope you will have a very good day! S
A lot of people don’t like deaf peddlers because peddling is a poor man’s profession and it makes deaf people look bad.
I support deaf peddlers because it is better to selling deaf cards than stealing stuffs. No wonder too many hearing peoples who have no job end-up in prison or living on street.
Wow.. Interesting to getting you more about this topic..
Thank you for info.
Hey Jim
i remember that some of deaf told me about deaf peddler.. i really dont know what is mean peddler.. yeah i notice some of deaf said that navie.. now now i got what you talked about peddler.. i see your point and your father .. i got clearly what you mean? yes yes i agree with you.. if they will say about peddler then i will speak out.. to make thems to understand and clear about the peddler.. thank for advice and understood.. thank you jim
Iris Jean Casey ’72
Wow Jim, very interesting I used to think negative of deaf peddlers because when I was little at oral school in Chicago (Bell School)I saw one of my teacher took ABC cards away from me and deaf people who sells. So I got impressed that it was not good.
Now after read you Jim.. I realized that they are hard working and inocence people who are making living by themselves instead being on welfare.
Why did we think of this as bad?
Now days we are selling ASL sign language books etc just like ABC cards. No different?
My hearts goes to deaf peddlers.. are there still deaf peddlers around.. I have not see any?
Thank you for sharing with us.
SB
Thanks u for sharing us. I had experienced that I did sell with ABC and pen to People in Guatemala for 2 years then I joined to deaf Guatemalans to travel to Mexico for few months. I decided only to go to USA then I arrived to Chicago. I peddled in Chicago for 3 years that money helped me to spend my food, motel, bus, and things. In Chicago, I didn’t find jobs, That was better opportunity for me. Thanks for letting people know that i got thrilled. “it always respect other each” 🙂
Thank you for going into details regarding your father and the peddlars. Your Dad taught you to be humble, to be kind and to be respectful of other people’s profession. You are teaching us. God bless you!
I think there is an UPSIDE and a DOWNSIDE of deaf peddling, seems to me back when I was alot younger it was more acceptable..and we all knew for a fact that these deaf peddlers WERE ACTUALLY DEAF…In recent years,, it has been hearing people working under deaf peddlers,, and I think this is where the down side comes in,,,having hearing people pretending to be deaf and working as peddlers ,,I have no problem reporting these people to the police ( the fake ” deafies” I am not even sure those people DESERVE our respect,,pretending to be deaf does not gain any respect from me,, not sure what every one else thinks, but that is just how I see it.
But I have no problem with REAL DEAFIES being peddlers, they are not a strain to the tax payers money ( ie welfare checks, food stamps etc ) Any way,,,Jim that was a good vlog,, it is always nice to remember what our parents have taught us,,, your dad taught you TO BE HUMBLE,,,I am sure you passsed it on to your boys 😀
Keep those vlogs coming Jim,,,
Jodi in Holland
Yes.. my parents are deaf also have many deaf peddler friends and my dad told me same thing what u(Jim) said but nowdays is downsize becuz its against the law that peddlers not pay tax but honest with u… it is best way to work as peddlers for deaf who have hard life compare hearing people sit their ass and recv public aid or welfare and do nothing. i have nothing againist peddlers becuz they make a living as hard work.
I left the comment of this on your vlog at deafvideo.tv. Yes, You’re right, just respect them. PERIOD!
Yeah I agree with you. I’d not like “deaf peddlers” used by hearing people. It happened to me one time in New York when I was in the grocery store. One guy handed me the ABC card and I looked at it to see what the card was about. Then I signed to him, “you are deaf?” He gasped and took the card then ran away. So that obviously the guy was hearing. I didn’t appreciate that the hearing person took advantage being pretense deaf and took in the money.
I guess your father’s right – it’s dignity – that they could work hard to earn money – better than being on welfare. Wow.. never thought of that like that.
You sure had a great father!
While I respect your opinion, which is a key work here, opinion; I too have my opinion I love to share. Read on. I believe that Deaf Peddlers is not a job title. I don’t think “Deaf Peddler” recognized by the IRS. They don’t pay taxes. A good citizens pay taxes. Most Deaf can receive SSI/SSDI and can work part time up to about $940.00 a month without loosing their checks from the government.
There have been hearing people peddling ABC cards pretending to be deaf. That is dishonest. It is deceptive. In 1987 at the Los Angeles Bus station, a Deaf lady tried to sell be ABC cards, when I told her that I know my ABC’s , then she sat down and we chat. She told me her husband is selling the ABC cards and he is hearing. I thought it gives us Deaf a bad name as if we can’t survive unless we beg for cash.
I tell people who asked me about Deaf Peddlers asking for money. I tell them that if they need help, its ok to help them out of the kindness of your heart, but if you really want to help Deaf community, then they should donate to a good cause Just as a State Association, or NAD. If they don’t want to donate, to refer them to welfare or social security office.
That is my opinion.
JIM IS RIGHT TRUE. MANY YEARS AGO I DID DEAF PEDDLER 12 TO 18 AGE ..I MADE EARNED THOUSANDS DOLLARS I DECIDED PUT SAVING CD WITH INTEREST MANY YEARS.. TODAY IM HAPPY MORE COMFORTABLE LIFE LIKE WELL ..I NEVER APPLY WELFARE .
I HAVE 2 JOBS WELL PAY ..I BELIEVE TO HARD WORKING EARN AND EARLY RETIRE ANYTIME..IM NOT SHAME ..SMILE
IF YOU RE SMART COOL !!!!!!!!!!
Jim, nice to meet you on vLog! I am enjoying your narratives and experiences! Thank you! Keep sharing them!
Since you asked for my opinion on deaf peddlers, at first when I first saw one in the 80’s–my mouth was open wide in aghast at the scene of deaf peddlers. What is shocking is these folks act very different on the street than in the community. They may act poor; dress up scanty with messy hair; unshaven perhaps and dirty clothes. When they come to the Deaf clubs or social event those same folks looking much decent.
That’s my experience with these peddlers–of whom I don’t see much any more except in a different version. They’d show up at bars or expos selling their wares more sensibly and/or to a good cause like charity (Peace Corp, theatre, VSO, etc).
Yes, I can imagine it takes effort for peddlers to get their ABC cards ready to sell. I enjoy having them expose sign language to the public and spread the knowledge on a tiny scale but it is how they do it. Will they show up in dirty, dishelved clothing and hairstyle? Unshaven? Only to grab people’s attention of pity and run off with a sense of entitlement that the money belongs to them. Why not these people become ASL teachers and earn more money in one day or one class than on the street for 6- 8 hours?!
Each to it’s own. Those peddlers have a choice where and how to sell their ABC cards. It’s up to them! Like you, I’ve been taught to respect people regardless but when it comes down to ethics and lying or cheating to get one’s way in a $ sense…. I walk the socialization line with care and caution, respectful but trusting? Maybe they’d want my two dollars, too!
Who knows what comes under your nose? Maybe in those days it was much more decent and peddlers understood that their reputation could travel far and wide so they were careful. My limitation? I haven’t met many as you, Jim because I haven’t been out there like you! Your parents, like mine did teach us the right thing—added with be careful of who you trust and trust the right people!
What you think?
Someone told me that certain famous deaf blogger is now peddling ABC cards in downtown Richmond, VA. Funny zero.
I remember when I was in State School for the Deaf. Deaf teacher told me that deaf peddlers are bad. Several years after I graduated, I had met many deaf peddlers when I was young. They were nice. I understand that they needed the money to survive. I had met a deaf peddler recently. I talked to him for a while then I gave him some money when he gave me a card. Deaf peddlers still exist now.
I totally disagree about supporting Deaf peddlers! There have been a few occasions when they have approached me…not knowing I was Deaf..and pushed an ABC card into my hand and immediately looked away, they did not want to make eye contact, I assume thinking I would ask them if they can read lips and/or possible lecture them. At a store I worked at, one of them, a woman, was becoming very unruly bothering everyone and I was ready to call security to kick her out. There is NO excuse, NONE for a Deaf or H of H person to not be able to work or even find a job. There IS jobs out there, go and look or ask at the V.R. There are agencies besides the V.R who are willing to help. Just don’t embarrass us Deaf who are intelligent and can work, and are willing to work!You make us look awful in the eyes of the hearing! And, if you insist on peddling, mind your manners!
HOW INTERESTING NEVER THOUGHT OF IT THAT WAY. THANKS FOR THE “WAKE UP”
Whenever, if deaf peddlers work hard, they still give negative image of deaf population. Deaf leaders work hard to raise better image for deaf people. This is main reason why many educators taught deaf children not to peddle. I remember I read old deaf school magazine and there was an article on peddler but that was published in 50’s. This article mentions how to become better deaf citizen in order to get better job which was before ADA. Also, I remember reading article where there are similar with Vietnam War Veteran who is trying to help veteran to stop peddling with help sign. They want same thing as deaf people which is better image.
Deaf peddlers will always have a bad reputation because there will be deaf people that look down at them, because they are an embarassment to their “kind”. I for one, will not judge them. As I have stated in another post about peddlers: I have had discussions with hearing people about them and most do not look down at deaf peddlers because they are “out there” earning their living compared to other people that get handouts from the government. Most smart people know that just because one a deaf person does this, does not mean they all do. There’s all kinds of people in the world whether they’re black, white, deaf, etc.
Because a* deaf person…. sorry running fingers! 🙂
It is better than selling your body, right?
Great vlog, Jimactor.
Jim, Yes, I agree with you 200 percent!! respect people period. I peddled when I have to. It saved me from losing my house. My dad is peddler too, and still is. Hes proud of it. Also, please remember long time ago, there is no SS checks and VR to help deaf people with jobs therefore they have rights to peddle. Hearing people peddle too. If not for peddler, I could have rob a bank! who knows!!
Thanks to my dad for tell me to peddle to survive til I find good job.
I have never peddled since I became deaf. I always had gotten a lot of good jobs. Why?? I got a good education and could have an opporunity to go to college which I didn’t. I have seen some deaf peddlers and a few of them are my friends. I even asked them why they had to peddle They said they had to get money for their living. I asked them why they could not go to VR for some help. I remember that I met a young mother who just had a baby and a toddler in 1966. So I asked her why she had to peddle. She said that her husband left her and the baby kids so she had no one to turn to. My heart broke for her. I advised her to go to the VR and get all the help she needed. I tried to show her how much I cared for her. She then left. I thought about her a lot and prayed that she could get that kind of help. Also, I saw a few “fake” deaf peddlers while I was working as a hair stylist. While I was shampooing on my customer’s hair, I saw a big female peddler showing the ABC cards to the other customers. My boss asked me if the peddler was deaf..So I went to her and used ASL to see if she could use it. She left so fast. All of our customers said,”We cannot believe that hearing people did such a bad thing like that.” I try to respect some deaf peddlers since they are in the small world. Anyway, I am so proud to say that I never peddled, but I understand what leads the deaf peddlers to do what it takes to live on shelter, food, etc. However, I see less deaf peddlers now than in 1960s and 1970s.
PEDDLING IS WORK,WORK IS PEDDLING!
PEDDLE TO ME IS SELF EMPLOYED AND ITS TAXFREE.
IS THAT COOL OR WHAT!?!?!?
Funny, I did think about having lectures on Deaf Peddlers on blog couple of months ago but I was kind of shy and was not ready being on video. Until you showed up giving lecture. I am glad you did. Yes, you are right about respecting them.
Anyway I live out in the country with my husband and family. There are about 3 Deaf people here and of course hearing people know us because of my kids in same school with their children, sports, etc. There was a peddler (friend of mine,too) in town couple of times and admitted that did for earning money but several stores threatened that friend by calling police, being parnoid if that person would be arrested (that person did caught by private but somehow that person made it to let go) Then I told that friend that friend had guts to do that while I could not do that and I was embrraassed for friend to do that in my town and would rather for friend to do in another town where no Deaf lives. Friend smiled but of course I told friend that it was not my business and still always a friend to me. People in town has not said one word about it yet to me. Suppose if they ask me about it, what I should say to them????
Hello Jimacotor,
Yeah!!! That is true about the Deaf Pedders which to make living. and comprae today and many deaf who living on SSI or Welfare ask for more support and do thing as nothing for the future. I agree with Jimacotor which it is true as deaf pedders which really make living to earning to support themself.
Thanks
UNKNOWN GUY
Let’s not forget that deaf peddling is often a gang activity with leaders introducing young and ignorant Deaf people to peddling, using coercion to exploit them for their own profit. Also, peddling and its supposed benefits of tax-free easy money is a poor example for our Deaf children.
We have systems to help these people: vocational rehab, SSI, training on the job, etc. but many peddlers prefer not to make the commitment to improving their lives because of the temptation and freedom from responsibility.
There is no future in peddling. There is no retirement savings, no medical benefits, no social status, no stability.
Fortunately, peddlers are in the minority. They still give the rest of us a bad reputation that we have to overcome. People can be helped so that they need not resort to peddling.
Hi, i say at least you are working, so why should anyone have anything to say about you. Some folks really show ignorance. That is sad because they can’t get to know the real you which seems to me, your trying to make it like everyone else,nice good person, so god bless you and i hope much happiness for you.
Right on to RFV and Dianrez!
And you can bet that every one of those peddlers is collecting SSD, which means they also have Medicare.
Great example for the youth of our country.
I AGREE THEY ARE HARD WORKERS BUT THERE ARE MANY WORK FOR THE DEAF PIMP LIKE SLAVES GIVE THEM WHAT THEY EARN AND KEEP ALL THE MONEY AND MAKE THEM WORK OVER TIME EVERYDAY. THEY WERE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO EARN FOR THEMSELVES.
My concern about deaf peddlers, I dont want to give them negative about sell the deaf card but I remembered when I was teenager my mother and I went to the airport and waited for my grandma to fly here from other state and my mother said looked at the guy that sell the deaf card so I came to him and asked if he knows sign language and he was shocked and looked at me and said to me no I dont know sign language and I asked him, why you sell the deaf card…He said he learned from deaf guy who was seller and he helped him with the deaf card to make living…I told him you better be careful other deaf people get mad at you for not know sign language and you used them…He ran away from me. Is that right?
10000% perfect I agreed with you.. I was peddler myself and not easy .. I was lucky to married to James support us.. Wink ILYY xoxoxo BC
I knew several peddlers in my younger years. I had a friend who was one. I didn’t condemn him but I did wonder how he could do it…I wouldn’t sink that low to knock on doors or pass those cards in stores…this friend can work and there were jobs available he just didn’t want to work. He wanted an easier way to make money and took advantage of people’s bleeding hearts. Once another friend was peddling in a store and he saw me and came to me…while talking with me the manager came to him and told him to get out of the store. I was embarrassed. This guy could get a job but preferred to peddle…there are pros and cons about the deaf peddlers as some may really be unable to work or no one would hire them…but most were healthy enuf to get a decent job.
hmmm .. me to think so … !!!
Dianerez,
I agree with your point that no 401(k). you have to make your own to saving $$$.
Just want to extra money for living, I have once meet Deaf Peddler for ABC card. it was more than 20 years.
For example, One CI interpreter used to sell deaf Peddler and became familiar person who know how to work freelance and lives on deaf peddler. but now he is over 50 yr old and kind of sleazy. I could not imagined how much he has been save money and he always traded the vechile after he repaired vechile so many time. I still cannot figure out how can he spend his time himself and neglect only his deaf son.
It is not acceptable! but not our problem. Respected Deaf Peddler. It is their own business. The reason why deaf sometime dont get it. I do understand in bad or good side.
I agree with her comments. I think they don’t realized we need retirement stock important! Tough choice.
WOW! I am so impressed by what you are saying. I have a lots of deaf friends who are peddler and they never bother me..as long we respect each other like you say but I NEVER NEVER thought how hard they work like you say…it hit me as of TODAY… no wonder my deaf pedllers always always always always respect me and even more they buy me a meal sometime! I always give her/him a ride to where they want to peddle. GOOD JOB DEAF PEDDLERS!
Thank you….
wow, some agree, some disagree
He talked about his time like 1950’s? No SSI or VR (vocational rehab) Get picture?
Dianrez, interesting comment that you left here but I disagree with your comment. For example, the people work but some did not pay taxes, too (avoid or pay ‘under table’)
Poor example to deaf children? You are funny because it takes their responsibility to make sure they get food, clothes, and a place to live. Most SSI people live with their parents.
Some deaf people abuse the government system, I speak of VR that supports them to go to the college. They withdraw the college after the homecoming weekend. What a waste on government money!
Talk about retirement savings, when the people get SSI, they will not get the retirement savings, too if they did not work at all. So, what is your point?
Bad reputation? It is hearing people who act like deaf and they ruin it.
What about dignity? You decide.
There is a VAST difference from way back then and now.
Today there is SSDI, SSI and food stamps, all of which is PAID by people who WORK. The peddler almost always draws SSDI and gets medicaid, etc.
Peddlers keep all their money, pay no taxes. I think that is totally UNFAIR. The peddlers are actually BEGGERS. Many have a very healthy body, but refuse to work.
We can’t compare today with long ago. GET A JOB, my friend.
Shame on the Deaf who Beg fro money and we work and pay tax Shame shame
I’m Deaf I work… I see peddling as begging and this is not acceptable and when I see Deaf Peddler I make a point to remind them that this is not a third world country!!! I tell them to get a real job and give them my business card… non of them ever call… because they don’t want a real job!! Shame to all the Deaf who sale the ABC cards… Stop making Deaf look dumb!!!
Peddlers stop making Deaf look Lazy and Dumb! Get a Job!!
Get a real job and pay taxes like I do!
Jim.
I respect your fond memory you have of your father and what a wonderful thing he taught you to respect all… but I will not respect your belief that peddling is accetable.. its not in this country and that you think it is a a hard job!! I disagree with the image it potrays all Deaf to be that way… You even said you work… Would you stand in a busy park or public place and say I’m Deaf pity me and give me money and here is a ABC card Thanks for pity me…. PLEASE.. I think not.. I sure the would never lower myself… I work.. I’m not LAZY! I’m a proud Deaf person!
I agree with you 100 percent. I was peddler to make my living and I do have left over box in my storage never use it but never know happen no work so I use for my emergency back up for survive. Yes Deaf real hard to find a job so therefore a peddler is to make living.
I find it odd that most of you complain that deaf peddlers are lazy. They are beggar. BUT look at welfare or SSI people, they are lazy, too. They are not looking for a job either. All they want to get government money and do nothing. Spend on money whatever they want while deaf peddlers work hard to earn the money to make living. Deaf peddlers have a hard way to make money while welfare or SSI people pick up the check in the mail for every month. Easy life!
Hey, I speak of long time ago, not today.
Also, what about the children that sell the lemonade during the hot weather in the summer? You call them peddler? What about the guy that gives the performer during the rush hour? Again, you call them peddler? See, there is lot of things that people sell that we did not realize but why do we have to target at deaf peddlers?
😉
-Fookem
One more thing to say, the homeless person who lives on the street and hold the sign, “Please help me”. I am sure that you give some money to that person as you feel sorry. But you did not realize that the person is peddler, too. And you did not talk bad thing about that person but why deaf peddlers?
Remember the word, respect!
-Fookem
Fookem-
Right on DUDE!! They don’t get Jimactor’s point of being respect to the others and peddlers are hard-working people. SSDI people (deafies)/welfare (black people) are bunch of lazyasses!! doing nothing and smoke weeds intheir parents’ house!! Peddlers are much better than homeless people, SSDI people, etc that do nothing.
Get a life and look at the point of the issue above and that is RESPECT toward each others.
Yes, true but I do not like they make people work for them and give them small amounts. It is like pimp job. For the family need and they can do what they need to earn for themselves or help others.
Thanks
Hello
Well one part I disagreed with you cuz they don’t pay tax at all. Thank you
Hello Jim,
I watched your Vlog/Vlog. I think that you didn’t realized that peddler or the beggars are illegal thingy in America. If the person decided to sell their ABC’s card. They will need to contact to Illinois Department of Revenue before they can start selling their own business with their own names, S.S. Numbers, Registered Numbers, and carry the documentary that they are permitted to sell the ABC cards. Here is something that I’d share with my point of view.
1. Dictionary ~ Beggars VS Peddlers
Beggars is who a person beg, especially one who lives by begging. A person who is very poor, to make seem poor or useless.
Peddlers is go out about from place to place to selling the small things, to give out or hand out. ~ They (both) didn’t pay their taxes.
2. Illinois Department of Revenue ~ Illinois Department of Revenue will ask this person if they have the Documentary, and pay the taxes? If no, then this peddlers would end up into trouble like pay the fines, jail, or whatever the State or Federal decide for their punishment…. See Roman 13:7
3. Bible Version ~ 2 Corinthians 2:17 Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in a Christ we speak before God with Sincerity, like men sent from God.
Matthew 17:24 – 25 After Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, The collectors of the two-drachma tax came to peter and asked “Doesn’t your teacher pay the temple tax? Yes, he does, he replied. What do you thin, Simons? He asked. “From who do the kings of the earth collect duty and taxes from their own sons or from others? 26 “From others,” Peter answered. “ Then the son are exempt” Jesus said to him. But so that we may not offend them , go to the lake and throw you out line. Take the first fish you catch; open it s mouth and you will find a four drachma coin. “Take it and give to them for my tax and yours”.
Roman 13: 7 Give everyone what you owe him: if you owe Taxes, pay taxes: if Revenue, then revenue: if Respect then respect, if Honor, then honor.
4. Point of View ~ I think that they didn’t realized that it is really an illegal for the person as a peddlers to sell and take people’s money to support themselves. Why? Yes, because the Medicare, Food stamps, SSI/SSDI is support them from the Governments system. Where does the taxes comes from? it is from the people who works and paid their taxes. So the Government can earn the taxes from the employers and is to help/support to family, or pay to the people who doesn’t have any job. The government does respect the poor/indeed family who needs the money. Don’t go and peddlers, just go and ask the government to help you. They have variety of help like the shelters, foods supplies, clothes supplies, and much more than go out and do peddler and no paying taxes, they are stealing from innocent people‘s money.
My suggest you that you should check out about this matters and give it out the right advice, before they can jump into constitute and may be arrest for wrongdoing and could point out to you because you says it is all right to be a peddlers. The Peddlers is concern as un professional.
So please have a second thought, and fix this points and help Deaf people to clarify this meanings. Thank you.
Sell lemonades… These small children is learning how to work as a job and would lead them having a job in the future for a better habits than be a peddlers? The underages doesnt know anything about exempt thingy. it is an educate/practically a job. Until they become an egliable for the job at 16 years old that is where it will start paying thier taxes.
The Peddlers… they didnt pay their taxes, I don’t see any any job would prevent hiring deaf people, is a lot better than a peddlers? They should know better than this, they are much older and should become an exempt their business as a ABCs card store?
TAX PAYERS is deserve to be respect because they works so hard and pay a lot of money to STATE/federal taxes.
Peddlers aren’t tax payers, is to respect them? If they were in your shoes, and you know it is untaxable, my question for you if the person is a peddlers, will you be able to encourage them to pay the tax?
Sell Lemonades VS Peddlers sure have a lot different in a prospective..need to see in your prospective please and thanks.
Thank you!
Bravo!!!! I grew up with the deaf peddlers myself as my parents are deaf. They peddled to make living and to make sure their chidren (me and my brothers) were fed, warm, and happy. They were AWESOME. They taught me all different things in life. At that time SSDI or SSI were not existed they had to find ways to make living. I see nothing wrong with that. Way to go, Jim!
There are tons of hearing peddlers out there, why can there be deaf peddlers? There are much worse ways to ‘earn’ money.
I understand your point about deaf peddlers and I do commend them but…I think what upset people is being caught off guard and put on the spot when someone comes to peddle. I know that there is no other way for them to sell the items. But I thought maybe it might help to understand why some people resent them I don’t resent them. I just hate to be caught off guard with no warning without enough time so I can figure out if I have enough money to pay for what I am doing and have enough for them.
Do you think a sign would help then all they have to do is stand in a corner and people can volunteer to buy? Its worth a thought.
Well, part of that I don’t agree as it is o.k., the reason it is illegal because they don’t pay taxes. You must have vendor lic. to selling something.
Hey Gal from IL, go read James 5:13.
FYI I am no christain and never drew SSI and proud of it…
Some of you thought it was illegal to peddle, not if they have permits or licenses to peddle. They are easier to get permits nowdays than before.
Most towns refused to give us permits mostly because NAD or other deaf organizations asked the city managers not to allow us to peddle. Most of us were so brave and went ahead to peddle without permits or we could die of starving. Those organizations made emenies among Deaf.
My Deaf parents were peddlers for many years (1915 to 1950) My dad used crutches. Of course, I took up peddling but I paid taxes because of properties that I owned would get me in a big trouble with IRS. My CPA handled taxes for me and I also had Incorporated business. I paid my own health insurance which was very expensive and Ira plan. Many peddlers who have paid taxes. There are peddlers who just make just enough to get by. I don’t think IRS cares.
Since Civil Rights, we have equal rights so you guys who hate peddlers to shut up or read James 5:13.
Smile!!!!
There were several big time peddlers like Krakover of Chicago who had over hundred working for him and owned as many as 100 cars at a time and all of them paid taxes.
Pre-SSI, there were so many peddlers that they fought for their rights. Krakover sued Frat for a million dollars and CCD for 250,000. (He knew that he won’t get money because of non profit Organizations) but he really scared them like hell.
I could go on forever but guess I have to stop. Hope to meet a fine man like you, Jimactor one day.
Gal from Illinois-
Peddlers, trades such as STS, CDT (Canada Diamond Trader), Swiss Cash all are consider as the self employees so therefore they should report their tax to IRS. Most of them don’t do that. Don’t tell me that only peddlers are the dirty business. Yes today it is illegal to do that but I am talking about my time way back in 1950’s, please read carefully and don’t throw any religion issues on me.
Thank you 🙂
Jimactor
Sorry I hit the wrong key….
Should read James 4:13
JK
Sorry I hit the wrong key…
Should read James 4:13
Smile, JK
hi i was hard work pencil gum and stiker i earn for my life pay for rent and food i be honestthat is hard work peddels help support to my family for 8 year peddels when i married i stop work because i have 2 beautyful chidlen i have stay at home any more work that is great your father have afriend with peddels im in california for 12 year
One lawyer I happened to know made a valid point about Deaf peddlers. This is America, the land of free enterprise, where anyone can choose to make a living. Including peddling! No matter if he or she has a full time job or gets a government assistance (SSI), he/she can works outside selling something and is entitled to making more money. The population makes an error by being too judgmental about what individuals try to do. Way to go, Jim!
let me give you guys and gals deaf peddlers as simple and the rest of other writers in this forems memo;;; go peddle in europe and england, you will get double the money and bring it back to america, you will be very rich, study thier laws first then try it good luck
ps nothing is wrong selling ABC card at all try to sell ILU shirt too, make ABC english sign,
french sign, german sign, portugal sign, open sign language classes over there teach police dept how to sign, hospital need you too(nurses)
that is very educating for them( hearing people)
of course you totally agree with me
in america deaf clubs other deaf can teach you how to sell ABC card before you try to sell, learn from them
good luck!!!!
Those who are on welfare or food stamp (no matter saying lazy people) but they are doing legal. They can’t afford to go on travel on welfare check. Peddlers been travel all over with the illegal money, doesn’t report to IRS on their income.
HI I AGREE WITH YOU, JIM.
I THINK THAT DEAF PEDDLERS, ALSO ITU PRINTERS USED TO HELP THE DEAF CLUBS OR SOCIAL EVENTS EARNING LOT AS ALL OF THEM LOVED TO STOP BY AND SHARED WITH LOCAL DEAF PEOPLE WITH LOT OF EXCITING NEWS AND KEPT THE CLUBS/SOCIAL EXCITING EVERY WEEKEND.. LOT OF FACE EXPRESSIONS WITH LAUGHS OR SERIOUS ETC BUT EVERYONE ALWAYS ENJOYED LISTENING MANY DIFFERENT STORIES FROM ALL OVER USA….(ALSO, LEARN NEW ASL GESTURES, TOO)
WHAT HAPPENED TO MANY DEAF CLUBS/SOCIALS???? BECAUSE MANY OF YOU DON’T RESPECT THE DEAF PEDDLERS, OTHER NON-PEDDLERS AND ITU PRINTERS …. CAUSE THEM TO STAY AWAY FROM THE DEAF CLUBS.. SOME SAY,”””BLAME ON THE CLOSED-CAPTIONED TV OR REGILIOUS OR OTHER REASONS..” BUT BUT MANY OF ANY DEAF PEOPLE DON’T RESPECT EACH OTHER… EVEN JIM EXPLAINED ABOUT HIS EXPERINCES AND HE GETS NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE..
NO MATTER HOW YOU ARE RIGHT OR WRONG.. JUST YOUR EGO OR PRIDE (I CONFESS … ONE OF ME, TOO)
MANY DEAF PEOPLE WHO TALK NEGATIVE ABOUT THE DEAF PEDDLERS.. YOU KNOW THAT EACH OF YOU (EVERYONE) IS PEDDLER BECAUSE ALL OF YOU SELL THINGS FROM YOUR GARAGE SALES /YARD SALES OR ANY MLM ALIKE STS, DIAMOND,FREEDOM, PPL, ETC… AND NEVER REPORT TO IRS.. WHAT’S DIFFERENT BETWEEN DEAF PEDDLERS WITH ABC OR THINGS AND SELL THINGS FROM YOUR GARAGE SALES (I KNOW SEVERAL TOWNS REQUIRE TO HAVE PERMIT FOR SELLING FROM YOUR GARAGE SALES/YARD SALES.. IF NOT PERMIT YOU ARE IN TROUBLE)
MANY DEAF PEDDLERS OWN THE HOUSES OR PROPERTIES, THEY WORK SO HARD TO EARN TO PAY TAXES FOR SUPPORTING SCHOOL OR WHATEVER….
In 1966 when i was young man and i always went to eat at big boy restaurant and met many deaf peddlers from many states. i noticed that they were very happy and not depressed. they were more fun to talk with. They never borrowed money from me. They treated me very good. Now deaf people with good jobs are not very happy and boring. They still borrow my money.I felt sorry for them who are against deaf peddlers.
Interesting comments by the vlogger and those who responded.
Honest Deaf peddlers and dishonest Deaf peddlers. Hearing acted as deaf peddlers. Hard workers and loafers depending on SSDI. Poor peddlers and rich peddlers who did not report to IRS, so forth.
There are honest to earth hearing hard workers and also there are many dishonest hearing people like politicians, lawyers, law officers, judges, preachers, priests, so forth. Nevertheless, there is no difference because all have sinned and fall short before the Sovereign God but by grace of God, salvation and redemption is given to those who confess Jesus Christ died for their sins and He was buried for three days and He arose to give hope for eternal life. Those are testimonies of Jewish writers who were there and witnessed the unheard of and unbelievable occurrence.
Yes of course agree with ya! my mom was peddler for many yrs plus she worked as elec solder.. she says peddler helped her a lot much better than welfare! so dont judge but judge urself so pray for us all! 😉
Hang in there deaf peddlers!
FaNcY~
Interesting issues under line down… some agree, some disagree… Concentrate what??? RESPECT one another no matter what! it’s true, often, we get DISRESPECTFULLY – Dis-Respect-FULLY because of background, culture, etc influence, their optional against the Universe. Again, TODAY, we OUGHT to think is RESPECT one another! I see in JimActor’s FIRST comment – Respect Deaf Peddlers, include gays, lesbains, black/white, hundred thousands issues – Number one is Respect or you don’t get respected! Same way, I think about own business, small or large, is also kinda Peddler! What’s difference? All of them are merchants, selling anything therefore Peddlers also is merchants! In Bible, still every since more than 4,000 years, still do have “selling” anything! We do need these things to use them as well!
HELLO TO EVERYONE.
I AGREED WITH JIM. IT WAS NO WRONG OR RIGHT. THE KEY IS RESPECT TO EVERYONE. I KNOW SOME OF THEM WHO HEARING TO USE DEAF PEDDLER. IT MADE ME ANGRY HOWEVER THEY SHOULD RESPECT TO DEAF PEDDLER.
NEUTRAL
BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!
They do or have:
Drive Cadillac or Corvair
Travel all over
Go to All Deaf Sports Tournaments all over country
Leave women with a child without child supports
Smoke pots and do drugs
plus more you don’t see yourself
That we decent people don’t have what they have but we are honest life and they do is illegal.
BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!
Not illegal if we have permits or licenses. Remember we have same rights as hearings, no less. Civil Rights protect everyone. Don’t you forget that. Look at blacks, they are always right, never wrong. That makes them so powerful while people like you trying hard to split us deaf and weaker. We should unite as strong as blacks wrong or right. Look at Mike Vick, wow!! we love that kind of supports.
I know many of them who have jobs but peddling to pay for trip to any events such as deaf sports, conventions or vacations. That’s good, most of them can not afford to attend any events on salaries they have.
We do have Bad and good peddlers. I assume about 10% bad and 90% good. There are more so-called decent people who leave kids and wives. They get paid and go to bar to get drunk then beat wives and kids. Most of times I go to so-called decent people parties, they offer drugs. BIG DEAL…..
Big cars are necessary and safer to travel so corvairs are too dangerous. We face death daily, carry bags to motels and eat out, late arrivals, worn out, dry cleaner, laundry, miss home cooking and lonely and more.
It is easy for hearings to have second well paid jobs. Peddling is the answer for us, Deaf…..
I knew many Deaf people with poor education when they left school, traveled a year or two, shocked their schoolmates that they got smarter 5 times. Great educational travels!!!!
I knew a guy who was peddling for about 20 years and he decided to look for a job. He applied for a job at Ford plant. Man in personnel office read his applicaton and asked him what he did in last 20 years so he told that he peddled. Man from personnel told him he should stay on it because of problems Ford had: layoffs, unions and etc. So he went back peddling happily till his death.
SMILE,
JK
I wonder who is the first deaf peddler to report his yearly wages and voluntarily pay state and federal income taxes? It still puzzles my mind that if deaf peddlers are so important to our community they would show their integrity by paying taxes otherwise they are anarchists.
Magnus,
Tough question….If only IRS would allow us to look up and find out who was the first….
Oldest trade on earth: Realtors and Peddlers.
Peddlers build AMERIA.
SMILE,
JK
GAL FROM ILLINOIS+++++++++++++++
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I rather to give out all the ABC cards to everyone as FREE.
In past there were Deaf Awarenss Day, we always passed out the ABC cards away.
Gal from IL, you can’t even spell your state right. Oh, you are Christian? I suggest you to read Proverbs 10:19.
There is nothing wrong with being a peddler. Like any employee, those who wish to peddle are required to have license for tax purpose. Some peddlers make a lot of money and do not pay taxes. Any rebuttal to that??
hey annoymous,so what if they do drugs and or whatever they drive.
i know many many many ppl thatworks for a company and do DRUGS so ur talk is point less
drugs are everywhereand everybody does it. even big wigs so your talk is useless and worthless, i used to do heavy drugs i dont peddler so what your point ??? like i said POINTLESS!dont judge a book by it covers!
JEFF
The way you talk like it is OK for people to anything as illegal,
like break in house, or steal cars, or rob bank, do all the illegal drug like candy. That’s you.
wont show ur name then dont talk we are not talking about breaking in houses and stuff, at least i stopped drugs look at the big wigs government they done worse than deaf peddle and yet they make alot of moneyand they get away with lots of shits u are limited mind so no sense trying talk to you cuz seems like u had a limited life by momma and daddy supporting you so u talk easy! so dont talk easy if u havent had hard life!!!!
I read their different opionions. Your judged? There are no one prefect. Only GOD’JUDGEMENT DAY!
Jeff
LOL!!!!
A M E N CASE CLOSED
Last week, I told myself, “HAPPY 50th birthday!” Second best thing happened on the same day, a peddler from another state came to me at a gas station. We chatted for a while and he said that Louisville, KY was one of the best place of the many cities he traveled. Typical of me, I took out money from my wallet & handed it to him with all of my heart. He left with a smile, so did I.
I WILL NEVER FORGET THIS ONE MAN IN A MALL HERE IN FLORIDA. HE WAS PEDDLING PENCILS AND WHEN I SIGNED TO HIM, HE GOT REALLY NERVOUS AND RAN OFF!!! WHY? HE WAS A FRAUD!! I AGREE WITH RHONDA. GET A JOB!
I do respect to a few of my good friends about thrity yrs ago who have does this.. One couple did this and put their three children in college which it impress me alot with their time for their children… Other couple have high pride to not to apply for help from the goverment so they did on their own and raised five children… It is something that have impact me for a long time…
Through your mind you know it’s right thing to do is respect for others….same with deaf peddler.
So you know what happened to deaf peddler that who been search for become wealth meet one day that who willing hired deaf peddler to take care of customer’s house and cleaning around and yard work also shopping food and things bring it to Customer’s house for them. So customer paid deaf peddler really pays excellence and got brand new car and nice house also pay vacation plus medical insurance too. deaf peddler pays for tax return more than $25,000 and got refund money back from tax office he got $7,000.00 because he is deaf can get money refund if pay tax return more than $25,000 per year…you can ask tax office and find out yourself. Tax office not pay refund money back to hearing only for deaf or blind or cerebral palsy or cripple too. You want find out more about this situation look at http://www.irs.gov so you can see how that works and make it successfully for deaf peddler to have more money and able to support for his living too. You can ask me if you want to know about it details too..Good Luck! Respect for deaf peddler you will get good karma means you will get good luck from something happens to you…God bless you and Deaf Peddler too…
HI YOU,
YOU ARE RIGHT THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE OUR HONSET RESPECT TO DEAF PEDDLERS. WHY?? MY HEARING DAD USED TO TALK TO ME ABOUT DIRTY POLITICS. HE NEVER LIKED CAPITALISM. HE WENT THR GREAT DEPRESSION. HE USED TO RUN HIS EARTHMOVING BUSINESS FOR MANY YEARS UNTIL HE HAD A HEART PROBLEM THAT FORCED HIM TO RETIRE AT 78 YEARS OLD. WOW.
HE DID GIVE US DEAF CHILDREN TICKETS FOR COWBOY EVENT AT COW PALACE NEAR SOUTH SAN FRANCISCO, CALIF. WHY? HE CAN NOT WRITE OR READ AND HE HAD HIS YOUNGEST BROTHER WITH A MENTAL PROBLEM. HE TAUGHT ME TO RESPECT ALL PEOPLE BECAUSE HE WANTED ME TO LEARN THE GOOD LESSON AND HE WANTED TO SEE ME GET THEIR RESPECT BACK.
DEAF PEDDLER HAVE A RIGHT TO SELL ANYTHING. IT IS HER OR HIS BUSINESS TO PAY TAXES OR NOT. I KNOW THAT 90 PERCENT NICE DEAF PEDDLERS AND 10 PERCENT NOT NICE DEAF PEDDLERS. DO NOT WORRY.
IF WE RESPECT DEAF PEDDLERS, THEY WILL FOR SURE RESPECT US BACK. THEY WILL LEAVE US ALONE BECAUSE WE DO UNDERSTAND THEIR FEELING. THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO TRAVEL OVER AMERICA AS THEY WISH. IT IS WASTEFUL TO JUDGE THEM AS LONG AS WE HAVE TO MIND OUR BUSINESS. DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM AT ALL.
IT IS THE WORST THING A DRUG DEALER NEVER RESPECT ANY PERSON AS LONG AS HE OR SHE WANTS MONEY FROM ANY PERSON. I NEVER RESPECT ANY DEAF DRUG DEALER. PERIOD. DEAF PEDDLERS DO NOT SELL ANY STILL DRUGS BUT THEY DO SELL ABC CARDS OR THINGS TO MAKE A NECSSARY LIVING TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES. PLEASE THINK HARD AND DO NOT JUDGE DEAF PEDDLERS.
DAVID FRANK
I always believe that everyone have the right to make a living. Selling ABC’s to public is a way for people to build their own business.
Government agencies want us to get off from the dole.. VR doesn’t do good job of helping people get job and making excuses for not helping anyone get job. SSDI/SSI is a short term income and SSA has became more strict about how many we can earn working.. unfortunately it is not enough for us to support ourselves..I don’t see there is anything wrong with selling ABC card since many corporations are unwilling to pay for interpreters to train deaf workers and discrimation still exist.. if deaf peddlers purchase vendor license and report their income to IRS and write off their business expenses on their income tax.. it is an enterprise spirit that American Society peaches.. Do you know how many business people become rich??? SELLING is key to becoming financial freedom..
hi jimactor; yeah, your mom and dad was right about deaf peddlers. i was peddler a long time ago.i experienced a lot and met many deaf peddler at CHICAGO,TEXAS, CALIF other states.,i needed to learn A.S.L.when i was oral lipreading without hands so i was interesting the deaf people who used their hands. i know most of people complained about deaf peddlers who was lazy,no working. i respected them. it was too story. i wish i talk with you more.
i retired last year then i wanna look for part-job. i missed alot of my old deaf friends. they’re gone. thanks Luz
I am deaf from Afghanistan. I want to work and live in the U.S.A . How can I
begin to find a job in the U.S.A ?
There are organizations in the U.S.A that help deaf people find jobs.
They may be able to help, but you would still have to go through the other
work visa channels, etc, before being able to work in the u.s.a .
There are people who help others make the transition from other countries to
the US , you should research them, instead of asking on here. Good luck
PLEASE SAY DEAF GET A JOB FIND
Alot of people are saying the peddlers did it to support their family. i understand that but you can get arrested for that. If you get arrested, who is going to feed your children? i think if i were in that situation, i would rather take help from the government.
Either way in all situations, respect to get respect.
I dont think all people that get help from the government are lazy. I know some people who get welfare and help from the government but they really need it. BUT at the same time, I see some people who abuse it when they are perfectly healthy and can work.
Its sad when different forms of help get abused.
For deaf peddlers: if you sold those cards for awareness instead of for pity, you might not get as many negative responses from others… (even though u might get less money).
Heya,
So glad your folks brought you up to be humble. It’s better than staying home and doing nothing at all. Hard work is hard work, and in this day and age, it is hard to find a good-paying job! Some people have to work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet. I did read that deaf peddling is illegal in California. I googled it…to see if it is illegal in other states…I am wondering if it is illegal to sell ABC cards in Massachusetts.
I was approached by the same deaf peddler for the second time at a grocery store. He was missing one arm up to the forearm and with the stump was holding some cards close to his chest. I seriously think he is a scammer. He gave me his card which said to donate 2 dollars for some kind of trip for deaf students. This happened a few months ago too at the same store and he mumbled a bunch of nonsense playing on the fact that he was deaf. I didn’t give him any money and he just turned around and left. Well today I saw him again, he gave me the same card. Right away I said NO and turned around because I don’t buy it. I started walking away when I felt him tapping my back with his finger. I had barely just turned around when he snapped the card from my hand rather quickly and angrily and he walked away. I have my doubts that he is actually deaf. If I run into him again, I am going to point to my daughter who has hearing loss and wears hearings aids and see what he does.