Many people think Deaf people should not drive.
In 1920′s a few states refused to licenese deaf drivers and other states did considering doing the same but deaf drivers won the right to drive in all states. Currently, the major problem seems to be the discrimination deaf drivers face when trying to rent a car or purchase a new car. Some dealers refuse to let them to drive for a test because they feel that deaf drivers are “risky”. Some companies are afraid to hire the deaf people as drivers. United Parcel Service (UPS) is one of them. In October 2006, UPS wanted to ban the deaf drivers but the court rejected it. The case is Bates v. UPS Inc., 04-17295. You can find this information at http://www.hmw.com/workcite/20061025.htm. The American with Disabilities prohibts them to make the discrimination against the deaf people. (Thanks to ADA). The UPS company spokeman Norman Black said they are unhappy about ADA . He said, “UPS strongly disagrees with the court’s ruling and we are evaluating our options, including an appeal. We believe this case is about safety. It has nothing to do with disability or discrimination.” WHAT? What kind of “safety” he was talking about? It’s nonsense at all.
Many people out there are suprised to learn that deaf people can drive. In the fact, the driving is an almost completely visual activity for anyone. How many drivers watch the road with their ears? It’s rarely to hear of any deaf person being turned down for a license solely because they are deaf. In the past the Deaf drivers had some issues with California Driver of Motor Vehicles office at San Diego. When they moved to San Diego and went to DMV office to replace the new licnese. DMV staff told them to take the driving tests because they are deaf. Hearing people didn’t need to take the driving test after they moved to San Diego. It was discrimination.
Some police officers feel that deaf people should not drive. You might want to check this police blog and get some ideas what they are saying about the deaf people:
http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48432
Also, you might want to check Barb Barb DiGi‘s story about her Deaf mother’s unhappy experience with a cop. Her story is interesting, please check her blog/vlog at http://deafprogressivism.blogspot.com/2007/05/my-deaf-mom-cop-and-law.html
Not all countries permit deaf people to drive. However, according to statistics from the World Federation of the Deaf (WFD), at least 26 countries do not allow deaf citizens to hold a driver’s license. A few years ago in the country of Kenya, it was against the law for any deaf people to drive. One day the government officals were invited to ride with some deaf Swedish individuals who were in Kenya. Deaf Kenyans said ” hey, they drive! Why can’t we?” After the officals experienced a ride with deaf drivers, the Kenyan officals realized that deaf people can drive so they changed the law.
We found the governement documents for you. The governement shows the research that deaf and hard of hearing are safe drivers than non-deaf drivers. Here’s two special government documents :
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/documents/hearing2.pdf
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/documents/hearing4.pdf
Fookem and Bug wish you a safe driving.
Cops need to go back to school and learn about ADA.
Hey, at least yall ain’t gonna be yakking away on your damned cellphones like some of the idiots I see on the LA freeways!
Deaf people are more aware of their surroundings then hearing. I see so many hearing people all over the road on cell phones doing make up etc. Statistics show very few wrecks caused by deaf drivers.
I don’t know about car dealerships or car rentals. I never encountered a problem when I bought a car (three times throughout my life) and rented a car whenever I was on a vacation or for business trips. I am deaf and I don’t speak, yet didn’t had trouble in many states related to either car sales or car rentals.
None of my deaf friends encountered problems (about car sales or car rentals) either as I could recall.
When my friends had a vacation in Tokyo, Japan, they were denied a car rental because of their deafness. Based on the source from my hearing friend who lived in Japan, there are many narrow curvy streets in the city and by the law, the drivers are required to honk before driving further on a street.
‘Currently, the major problem seems to be the discrimination deaf drivers face when trying to rent a car or purchase a new car.’
It is a myth.
It’s not always myth. I tried to rent one in Africa and China, they declined my request. I always wanted to be a truck driver, many states in U.S. won’t let me drive it. One place at Hollywood, I wanted to test a fancy and expensive car, they won’t let me be near. I wore a nice clothes. My friend with a short and t-shirt made it on the same day I was there. Because he is hearing. He worked for the phone company. I worked for (still do) real estes office. They let him test their beautiful car. My driving record is clean. Oh come on!
Californian, can you prove me that deaf people, who live in America, have problem with rental car or buy a new car?
I have the similar problem with my job. My boss won’t let me to drive the school van to take deaf students to the field trip. So my boss rather to have hearing teachers to drive. One time, the hearing teacher got in a car accident. I ran to my boss and told him. See, it does not make any difference. So after the incident, he lets me to drive.
I agreed that deaf drivers are more safe than hearing drivers.
In India, no driving licences are allowed to Deaf drivers, even for two-wheelers vehicles because as per old Indian Law drafted in 1935 based on old British Rule’s law (India was under control of Britain), no deaf drivers are permitted to use any type of vehicle. We have not encountered any problem with vehicles sellers/manufactures when we have bought cars, motorcycles etc. But in case of causing death to any person by deaf drivers without driving licence, they must be sentenced by court to life sentences equilavent to murder punishment.
Oh boy, I didn’t realize that this was still an issue! I remember when I was a kid adults here and there asking me, how can your parents drive a car? I thought it was a stupid question and would say, they drive same as you do. And they’d say, well, what about when a police car or an ambulance comes up behind them? And I would say, my parents would know about the ambulance even before I did, distracted by the radio as I was. And nowadays you have all the witless wonders driving around not only blasting the radios but also with the cell phones glued to their ears. Yeesh.
That was interesting reading the police officers’ forum and it makes me want to ask the local police officers their thoughts or experiences on our deaf population’s drivers. I have had only one experience with a local police officer here in Yuba City, and it was a positive experience. He gave me a citation for having a broken rearview mirror. We communicated via notepad. I fixed the rearview mirror and showed up at the office, paid the $10 fit-it fine.
I’ve had other encounters with police in other towns, and they generally have been professional. I only have a gripe with Los Angeles police officers. They seemed rude. But then it might be the environment. Crazy people, extra rude police officers. After all, Los Angeles is home of the Watts Riot and the Rodney King beating. I was surprised that the one New York officer I had in NY, was polite. I was expecting him to be brusque with me. I think police officers have a hard job. They have to be tough with the real criminals but also sensitive to the different people they encounter daily.
Tell them, Lets put all BLACK Paper around car windows and let them drive. They cant drive cuz they need to watch the ROAD more careful!
What about hearing drivers who listen to the music…a very loud music in their car???
I always wanted be become Deaf Driver Truck. Some state say requested to pass hearing test AS LONG AS U USE HEARING AIDS while whisper within 5 feets. I have been fighting for U.S. Highway Dept. and They say if i only pass hearing test then I can get CDL…. I m full deaf . I been working on Diesel Mech. on trucks, warehouse, etc. I dont give a bleep about cop if cop think deaf ppls cant drives. Oh Yes Deaf people is normal, reg. as hearing ppls. Deaf ppls can drive cars, trucks, van, tractors, whatever it is. Wish me good luck with me getting CDL!
Man, Hearing people can be dumb sometimes, All deaf hater can rotten all i care
I think that discremination against the deaf is pretty harsh i need a minor’s license because my mom has to get to work by 7:00 and my dad’s a truck driver. also the bus doesn’t run to my house and the driver’s ed people doesn’t belive in the Deaf driving but my friend Michell, who has also been deaf sence birth but unlike me can talk and read lips, got a minor’s license. It was from the same people but they couldn’t tell he was Deaf.
DISCRENINATION:(
wow, is amazing all the things I’ve learn just by taking an ASL class, i am a hearing person, and im doing a research paper, observations and learning to sign… I think is really interesting what you guys have accomplish, and i believe is way better to fight for what we believe. If statistics show that deaf people are better drivers i don’t think we should denied them the right.
It’s amazing how many times people have asked, “how do you get around, do you drive?” I can’t even imagine how they can think we can’t drive. I’m hard of hearing and I’ve been driving for 10 years now and I’ve only been in ONE MINOR ACCIDENT and it wasn’t my fault. Deaf and hard of hearing people are actually better drivers out there. We see things that hearing people wouldn’t bother thinking of looking at. We hear things sometimes that hearing people just ignore because they are too used to it. We have our advantages and disadvantages but so do hearing people.
in usa rules for deaf people can drive any transpoartion but not allow drvive for business like CDL carry people , big plane , tow truck. only basic deaf people can run truck business use full size of uhaul truck under 24,000 lbs. for plane deaf people can drive small plane and not allow make money for tax, only can collect cash by friends or family member, cant be other people who will bust you. obama know sign language and visit deaf schools. we hope he will change law for deaf people get job with any transportion.
I have taught deaf drivers here in the UK using BSL now for over 16 years and can state that deaf drivers are at least as safe as hearing drivers and in most cases more so, because they have greater visual awareness.
The old argument about the emergency vehicle not being heard may carry a small percentage of credability, but that is more than out-weighed by the increase in visual awareness.
As for deaf truck drivers here in the uk. We recently gained our first fully qualified “Female” “Deaf” Truck driver. Paste the following link into your browser window to read about her.
http://www.thedeafblog.co.uk/2008/12/deaf_steph_hits_road_as_trucke.html
Listen!!!! I am deaf and I think that many hearing people shouldn’t be allowed to drive because they causes more car accidents than deaf because all they do is yakking on the dang phone and thinking that they don’t have to rely on their sight to drive just their hearing abliity. FYI Deaf people IS THE MOST DEFF SAFE DRIVERS IN USA and for those who have a problem with that, well GO TO HELL and cry like a baby!!!! CUZ THIS IS A FACT
If hearing people wants to deny our rights to drive just because we are deaf then we should deny them some of their rights as well such as driving cuz they are the worst driver in the damn history!!!
Theres are over 30 million deaf and hard of hearing and they drives safer than hearing–Hearing people all they do blah, blah, blah on dumb cell phone and driver classes keep telling everyone to not use cell phone while driving on road–pull over and then chat on phone and most deaf people didnt make much money, they keep their older cars that moving slowing and all hearing blowing their horns We cant hear horns duuhhh just like 2 or 3 days ago I was drove older slow moving van it was on fast lane on 2 way head south freeway when i was passed 18 wheeler truck and a 30 yr old lady drove new car was tailgate at rear my van I was doing at 70 mph in mich limit hwy laws, all she blowing horns to make me speed up, noooo lady have to wait to turn after I make do my safely almost ready to change move to slow lane to let lady pass but she did cut front 18 wheeler and passed me and flip middle finger to me, and 18 wheeler almost got accident, now who is stupid?? lady is.
i am a hearing person, and im doing a research paper, observations and learning to sign… I think is really interesting what you guys have accomplish, and i believe is way better to fight for what we believe. If statistics show that deaf people are better drivers i don’t think we should denied them the right. cyprus car
Hi everyone, yeah, see if anyone who wear hearing aides, still not deaf, the same who wear glasses, still not blind what the different, stupid law. In Australia,I got full truck Licence “Road Train” (62 wheeler), still don’t have to wear hearing aides at all. Good life in Australia, cheer Rockradar
It seems obvious that NO ONE here actually read the studies that this blogger talked about. If you had, you’d see that NOT ONE study was cited that showed DEAF PEOPLE ARE BETTER DRIVERS THAN HEARING PEOPLE. That’s just not the case.
I have a good friend who is deaf. She is really upset that another of her deaf friends had her license flagged at the DMV. I have seen my friend drive. I’ve been in the car with her. And none of her friends, including me, want to drive with her ever again. Her driving is horrible. Is it because she’s deaf? I don’t know. But I do know that it must have something to do with the fact that she’s totally oblivious to what is going on around her. She was able to hear fully until she was 24, so maybe it’s different. Her other senses are not better and don’t make up for it. She also has problems with vision and balance. She can’t hear police and fire. She can’t hear if someone beeps at her (which, trust me, they do). She can’t hear traffic.
Hearing people are not allowed to wear earphones while driving. They’re also not allowed to have extrememly loud music in many places. Why? Because it is distracting.
Yes, people still do it, but they can get ticketed and/or lose their license. If you ask me, many people should have to have their driver’s test (road test) regularly, and deaf people are included in that group. There are far too many people on the road making it dangerous for others and themselves, and my deaf friend is, sadly, one of them.
And to sign off, I’ll say – read the statistics. Just because deaf people cause FEWER accidents doesn’t mean that as a percentage of drivers they cause fewer accidents. If there are 100 hearing drivers to every 1 deaf driver, and only 2 out of 100 accidents are caused by the deaf (this doesn’t even mention how many were caused by a hearing individual but could have been avoided if the deaf person could hear a horn or a siren or whatever), then deaf people cause only 2% of accidents, but a greater percentage of deaf people are causing the accidents than the hearing people.
I agree that deaf people have to do a lot, but the ADA made the wrong decision here – especially when it comes to UPS and other drivers. Just because some deaf people have a safe driving record doesn’t mean all do. This blogger needs to take a course in statistics and logic.
Naomi – you need to check your facts:
“FYI Deaf people IS THE MOST DEFF SAFE DRIVERS IN USA and for those who have a problem with that, well GO TO HELL and cry like a baby!!!! CUZ THIS IS A FACT”
So NOT TRUE. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS DEAF PEOPLE ARE THE SAFE DRIVERS IN THE USA.
I almost got hit by a deaf girl last week!
I was on my motorcycle just going the speed liimit and suddenly she comes into my lane! i had to swerve to avoid getting hit! This isn’t thaat uncommon except that i was near her drivers side window so thats usually pretty high visibility. Then i looked in and saw her signing with her friend. LOL!
No hard feelings towards deaf people overall. THeres irresponsable deaf people AND Irresponsable people who can hear normally.
DEAF PEOPLE CAN DRIVE BECAUSE THHHHHEY ARE ALSO MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD SO ANYTHING AIMED AT MAKING THEM LOOK INFERIOR IS DISCRIMINATION ON THEIR PART WHICH IS A SIN AGAIST THEIR MAKER. WOO LET ME END BY SAYING THAT AM ALSO A DEAF EXPERIENCING DISCRIMINATORY ACTIVITIES ON THE SAME IN PRETENCE THAT AM BEING PROTECTED
I had hearing loss at age 5, Now I have a coclear implant and hold a CDL! Never had any problems.
well i want tell you, i am deaf man have drive Lic, i know deaf peoples can drive why hearing peoples think deaf peoples should not drive that really pisss me off sooo hell even not allow CDL that soooo dumb hearing peoples. i dont care if i say free spech to hearing people it fair. FACT IS DEAF DRIVER IS BETTER THAN HEARING PEOPLES. IF I SAY TO THEM HOW THEY FEEL THAT FAIR.
In my state here in Australia a person that is deff has to have hearing aids on when driving. my father knows someone that is completely deff in one ear and the other with a hearing aid and he is very dangerous on the road and he has close calls in the car out of the driveway with motor cars motorbikes and trucks and buses and one day i was on the way into the CBD on the bus and he wrote off his car and i saw him standing in the middle of a major road and you should have seen the other cars and every time he leaves my perrents house he almosts has accidents when leaving the driveway. I do think a doctor should give out a medical cetificet every 12 months and have a hearing test every 12 months
Many deaf people think hearing drivers should not drive because it happened to me
when the hearing driver hit my car. Police found my driving skills were correct while those
hearing driver did very wrong decision and he got a ticket. His insurance paid me for my car
damged. Let me tell you a fact from US goverment did reseached of which one is the
worst driver – hearing or deaf? They found high percent of hearing drivers as worst
drivers. Hey, hearing drivers pay attentions to road more carefully!!!
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Im amazed that deff people drive cars in the us but they should ware hearing aids in Australia you have to even a bus driver has to ware a hearing aid if stated on the drivers licence and here in Australia you have to have it on your drivers licence just like if you ware glasses to see.
Here in Australia if you ask anyone if a deff person should be able to drive they would highly disagree of a person to drive unless they have a hearing aid you can drive if you are deff in one ear and i have herd of a doctor had a deff pashent that want to drive and the doctor said no and that person went to another doctor and said the same thing and both doctors knew each other as very good friends and they talked about it at a party and both gp’s both can sign to the deff and i can’t say the doctors name
Here in Australia it is illegal to drive with a cellphone to your ear but you can use them with a hands free kit and they are not expensive and some of them can clip onto the sunviser or the car has a blutooth in the car stereo
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I am against deaf people being able to drive. When I was 4 years old I was hit by a car (twice by the same driver) by a deaf driver. I obtained serious head injuries, optic nerve damage, of which I am now a candidate for “Acute angle glaucoma”, inner ear damage, a broken tail bone as well as other issues which have appeared as I grew older. I’m 51 now and am forced to go one welfare dissability because I have multiple herniated discs in my lower and upper spine. I am in constant pain with no hope of relief.
The man hit me and I flew through the air only to land on my hands and knees, seconds later he struck me again. I hit the pavement with my face, my nose was gone. I needed plastic surgery to repair my nose and my facial bones as well..Call my humpty dumpty.
My compensation was $1500 which I would receive when I was 19 years old…What a laugh eh. Now I live in welfare poverty. I’ve never owned my own home and have nothing worth of value..
My mother had a nervous breakdown which we all grew up thinking was normal. Life sucks